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		<title>Comment on universal pensions in Chiapas by Larry Willmore</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/16/universal-pensions-in-chiapas/comment-page-1/#comment-56343</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Elsie! Thanks for writing. The answer to your question is that the state government finances age pensions from general revenue. Modest pensions are actually not that costly, especially if they are universal (not targeted), since administration costs are then very low. The only thing to check is whether the applicant is of sufficient age, and is breathing. (Sometimes the dead collect pensions!) I will look for budget data and try to find precisely what % of expenditure goes for the Amanecer pensions.

But I have a question for you, since you seem to have a connection with Chiapas. From the numbers, I would guess that 119,214 seniors in Chiapas - those over the age of 70, living in communities with fewer than l than 30,000 inhabitants - are receiving two pensions, one from the federal 70+ scheme (this is confirmed) and another from Amanecer (this I can only assume, from the total number of beneficiaries).

Can you confirm or refute my suspicion? Many thanks if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elsie! Thanks for writing. The answer to your question is that the state government finances age pensions from general revenue. Modest pensions are actually not that costly, especially if they are universal (not targeted), since administration costs are then very low. The only thing to check is whether the applicant is of sufficient age, and is breathing. (Sometimes the dead collect pensions!) I will look for budget data and try to find precisely what % of expenditure goes for the Amanecer pensions.</p>
<p>But I have a question for you, since you seem to have a connection with Chiapas. From the numbers, I would guess that 119,214 seniors in Chiapas &#8211; those over the age of 70, living in communities with fewer than l than 30,000 inhabitants &#8211; are receiving two pensions, one from the federal 70+ scheme (this is confirmed) and another from Amanecer (this I can only assume, from the total number of beneficiaries).</p>
<p>Can you confirm or refute my suspicion? Many thanks if you can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on universal pensions in Chiapas by Elsie Nespor</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/16/universal-pensions-in-chiapas/comment-page-1/#comment-56321</link>
		<dc:creator>Elsie Nespor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely unbelievable, and where can I find out the details of HOW, WHO, WITH WHAT (statistics being what they are on poverty there?) etc. the government (taxes?) pay these pensions?  Thanks so much.  Enespor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely unbelievable, and where can I find out the details of HOW, WHO, WITH WHAT (statistics being what they are on poverty there?) etc. the government (taxes?) pay these pensions?  Thanks so much.  Enespor</p>
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		<title>Comment on greed and the market economy by Sachs on greed and social restraint &#171; Thought du Jour</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/18/greed-and-the-market-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-56283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachs on greed and social restraint &#171; Thought du Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for political action. And this begs the question, What type of political action? More practical is John Kay&#8217;s emphasis yesterday on rules and institutions to direct greed &#8220;towards the creation of new wealth rather than the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for political action. And this begs the question, What type of political action? More practical is John Kay&#8217;s emphasis yesterday on rules and institutions to direct greed &#8220;towards the creation of new wealth rather than the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on universal pensions in Yucatan by universal pensions in Chiapas &#171; Thought du Jour</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/15/universal-pensions-in-yucatan/comment-page-1/#comment-56215</link>
		<dc:creator>universal pensions in Chiapas &#171; Thought du Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday I wrote that Yucatán is the only state of Mexico to follow the example of Mexico City (and the federal 70+ rural scheme) by offering a universal pension to elderly residents. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday I wrote that Yucatán is the only state of Mexico to follow the example of Mexico City (and the federal 70+ rural scheme) by offering a universal pension to elderly residents. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on capitalists and markets by capitalism as freedom &#171; Thought du Jour</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/11/capitalists-and-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-56124</link>
		<dc:creator>capitalism as freedom &#171; Thought du Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brittan defending the market economy, not capitalism, as John Kay explained in these pages on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brittan defending the market economy, not capitalism, as John Kay explained in these pages on [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on hyperpolyglots by Larry Willmore</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/03/hyperpolyglots/comment-page-1/#comment-55852</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing, Michael. I look forward to reading your book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing, Michael. I look forward to reading your book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on hyperpolyglots by Michael Erard</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/03/hyperpolyglots/comment-page-1/#comment-55829</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Erard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of Babel No More here. Thanks for your post -- let me know what you think when you get a chance to read it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of Babel No More here. Thanks for your post &#8212; let me know what you think when you get a chance to read it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on forecasts for 2012 by Larry Willmore</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/01/02/forecasts-for-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-55812</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Maule wrote: &quot;Looking back would be useful as well as looking forward. What did these people forecast for 2011 and how well did they predict the past year?&quot;

Following his suggestion, I went to the FT archive to search for last year&#039;s exercise.

A year ago (Financial times, 31 December 2010) FT writers published forecasts for 2011. These forecasts were not terribly successful. Martin Wolf correctly predicted that the euro would survive the year, but Martin Sandbu incorrectly predicted that that Europe would allow banks to fail. &quot;Next year,&quot; he wrote, &quot;Europeans will choose to save their states rather than their banks: 2011 will be the year not of sovereign defaults, but of haircuts for banks&#039; senior bondholders&quot;.

The main problem, though, is that many FT writers hedged their 2011 forecasts, so any outcome would be consistent with the &#039;forecast&#039;. The forecasts for 2011, for this reason, are generally less interesting than those for 2012. Martin Wolf and Martin Sandbu are outstanding exceptions to this generalisation.

It is thus understandable that the FT this year does not refer to its 2011 forecasts. A year ago, in contrast, the FT wrote that its writers &quot;have a lot to live up to, after the success of last year&#039;s commentators&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Maule wrote: &#8220;Looking back would be useful as well as looking forward. What did these people forecast for 2011 and how well did they predict the past year?&#8221;</p>
<p>Following his suggestion, I went to the FT archive to search for last year&#8217;s exercise.</p>
<p>A year ago (Financial times, 31 December 2010) FT writers published forecasts for 2011. These forecasts were not terribly successful. Martin Wolf correctly predicted that the euro would survive the year, but Martin Sandbu incorrectly predicted that that Europe would allow banks to fail. &#8220;Next year,&#8221; he wrote, &#8220;Europeans will choose to save their states rather than their banks: 2011 will be the year not of sovereign defaults, but of haircuts for banks&#8217; senior bondholders&#8221;.</p>
<p>The main problem, though, is that many FT writers hedged their 2011 forecasts, so any outcome would be consistent with the &#8216;forecast&#8217;. The forecasts for 2011, for this reason, are generally less interesting than those for 2012. Martin Wolf and Martin Sandbu are outstanding exceptions to this generalisation.</p>
<p>It is thus understandable that the FT this year does not refer to its 2011 forecasts. A year ago, in contrast, the FT wrote that its writers &#8220;have a lot to live up to, after the success of last year&#8217;s commentators&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on on intelligent design by Derrill Watson</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2011/10/19/on-intelligent-design/comment-page-1/#comment-54581</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrill Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t work very well. Wind doesn&#039;t spontaneously appear from nowhere any more than everything else did. Air pressure and temperature make the wind and are in that sense its blowers. Then the true intelligent design-believer asks what made the air pressure and temperature, and what made those, and what made those, and eventually you either claim that it&#039;s turtles all the way down or that there is a Designer who made the wind blow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t work very well. Wind doesn&#8217;t spontaneously appear from nowhere any more than everything else did. Air pressure and temperature make the wind and are in that sense its blowers. Then the true intelligent design-believer asks what made the air pressure and temperature, and what made those, and what made those, and eventually you either claim that it&#8217;s turtles all the way down or that there is a Designer who made the wind blow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nick Rowe on free lunches by Doug Walker</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2011/10/02/nick-rowe-on-free-lunches/comment-page-1/#comment-54430</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the responses.

On Larry&#039;s comment, I certainly would not call on policy makers to decide on resource allocation.  I am simply trying to point out an overall spending program affects the general economy whereas in my view the problem we face is highly structural in nature.  While the government may try and target what it regards as rising and worthwhile activities (such as &#039;green technologies&#039; and public sector employment), in fact no one knows where the long-term path of production is headed, and the decisions of government about the future are highly influence by political considerations.  There are times when Keynesian-type stimulus programs can be effective.  I do not think this is one of them .

On Nick&#039;s comment, there is nothing to suppose about the comment I made.  I simply stated the obvious, ceteris paribus, printing money and spreading it around changes the real purchasing power of the individuals in an economy, some gaining, some losing.  Of course, how and how much money is injected into the economy and how it affects the demand for money will affect prevailing relationships and patterns.  And I agree that injecting money will have at least a temporary positive effect on production, with a rise in average incomes and employment and, hopefully and likely, a beneficial effect on income distribution.  But again, there will be winners and losers and therefore no &#039;free lunch&#039;.

My impression was the Tdj was asserting that there are some simple and costless measures we can take that will have no negative consequences to anyone.  I wish that were true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the responses.</p>
<p>On Larry&#8217;s comment, I certainly would not call on policy makers to decide on resource allocation.  I am simply trying to point out an overall spending program affects the general economy whereas in my view the problem we face is highly structural in nature.  While the government may try and target what it regards as rising and worthwhile activities (such as &#8216;green technologies&#8217; and public sector employment), in fact no one knows where the long-term path of production is headed, and the decisions of government about the future are highly influence by political considerations.  There are times when Keynesian-type stimulus programs can be effective.  I do not think this is one of them .</p>
<p>On Nick&#8217;s comment, there is nothing to suppose about the comment I made.  I simply stated the obvious, ceteris paribus, printing money and spreading it around changes the real purchasing power of the individuals in an economy, some gaining, some losing.  Of course, how and how much money is injected into the economy and how it affects the demand for money will affect prevailing relationships and patterns.  And I agree that injecting money will have at least a temporary positive effect on production, with a rise in average incomes and employment and, hopefully and likely, a beneficial effect on income distribution.  But again, there will be winners and losers and therefore no &#8216;free lunch&#8217;.</p>
<p>My impression was the Tdj was asserting that there are some simple and costless measures we can take that will have no negative consequences to anyone.  I wish that were true.</p>
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